7-Zip and p7Zip belong to a family of file compression utilities that are among the best available for Linux/Unix. So you would think that the development communities would offer to Linux users what is available in similar compression apps on the Windows and Mac platforms. Think again! It’s unfortunate that such a powerful tool lacks an easy interface. What makes 7-Zip and p7Zip superior to other compression utilities is the far greater compression ratios they provide.
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Wow, this is the biggest piece of crap I've ever read!
The author is too lazy to learn about 7zip and the CLI. For someone who writes articles, he sure does not know how to read others. IF he did so, he should have read in his reference (wikipedia) that CLI means Command Line INTERFACE, not Command Line Instruction.
Furthermore 7zip does not store file permissions and/or owner/group information. Do NOT use 7z for backup purposes. The workaround aka Tar->7zip does not work EITHER. The only workaround I can think about is getting all permissions + owner/group data of your system into a file, extract your 7zipped system and set permissions + owner/group via ch{mod,own,grp}.
DELETE THIS ARTICLE, IT IS A SLAP INTO EVERY LINUX FAN'S FACE. Never let this man post an article again.
I agree with the commenter who said this article should be deleted. And to the commenter who said it "borders on disinformation", you're almost right. It is clear and unapologetic disinformation. Anyone new to Linux who reads the article but not the comments would believe that tired old stereotype about Linux requiring the commandline for everything. Join us in the new millenium, people! Almost NOTHING on Linux REQUIRES the commandline anymore. It's only still there because for SOME activities it's still FAR more efficient and simple than wading through countless mouse clicks in a GUI. For you newbs who equate GUI with simplicity, you're entirely welcome to do everything you want to with your mouse. Linux is NOT stopping you. Only your unwillingness to accept REALITY is stopping you. The reality is that computers and operating systems (including Linux) have CHANGED in the past 30 years. SURPRISE!
Read the p7zip man page and I quote:
"DO NOT USE the 7-zip format for backup purpose on Linux/Unix because :
- 7-zip does not store the owner/group of the file.
On Linux/Unix, in order to backup directories you must use tar"
7-zip on Linux is only for compatibility with the popular formats of other OS's and as already mentioned is well-supported by all the major archive GUI's. True Linux users don't want a different, inconsistent GUI for every format under the sun; we want software organized neatly by its purpose and if that purpose is archives we want one GUI to rule over all the various formats - and that's exactly what we already have.
If you are doing real Linux backups and want 7zip's impressive compression you should ALWAYS use the *.tar.lzma format, NEVER 7zip.
Hahaha, this article should be deleted! This just shows how ignorant the writer is about Linux. Just that screen shot of him using the terminal is enough to make me laugh at his newb-ness!
Okay Jack, in Linux, a great many of our programs are actually controlled through cli behind the scenes. And we just get a nice GUI program that actually uses these cli programs inside it. We like choice in Linux so we can easily use any GUI we want.
Not all programs are this way, but I've seen a lot. Good examples are media programs like ffmpeg.
You are so uninformed that this article is borderline disinformation.
I use KDE 3.5, the good old one, and I have more GUI than I can handle to deal with 7z archives. To extract, I just right-click and select "Extract...". To compress, I just select my folders and files, right-click and select "Compress...". 7z has been available for years in the possible archive formats.
If I want to go the complicate way, I can explicitly open the 7z archive with Ark and extract from there. To create a 7z archive from Ark is as simple: I drag and drop from Konqueror, the file browser and save as "something.7z". That's all.
The only thing that is missing is that I cannot explore 7z archives as if they were folders like I can do with pretty much all the other archive formats. (It is still not available in KDE 4.x either, at least not in the version I have.)
The CLI tool is for Bash maniacs... or, more seriously, for specialized uses where it is convenient not to have any GUI. It is not even installed on my system and 7z is obviously well supported.
I cannot say much about the Ubuntu i.e. Gnome side of the things. My exposure to Gnome is mostly limited to GiMP. I shall not make any supposition except maybe that you must be using some desktop without all the bells and whistles of KDE.
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7-Zip Stuffs Data Tight, but It's Hard to Get a Grip on This Zipper
Posted by: Jack M. Germain June 27, 2012 05:00 AM7-Zip and p7Zip belong to a family of file compression utilities that are among the best available for Linux/Unix. So you would think that the development communities would offer to Linux users what is available in similar compression apps on the Windows and Mac platforms. Think again! It’s unfortunate that such a powerful tool lacks an easy interface. What makes 7-Zip and p7Zip superior to other compression utilities is the far greater compression ratios they provide.
Wow, this is the biggest piece of crap I've ever read!
The author is too lazy to learn about 7zip and the CLI. For someone who writes articles, he sure does not know how to read others. IF he did so, he should have read in his reference (wikipedia) that CLI means Command Line INTERFACE, not Command Line Instruction.
Furthermore 7zip does not store file permissions and/or owner/group information. Do NOT use 7z for backup purposes. The workaround aka Tar->7zip does not work EITHER. The only workaround I can think about is getting all permissions + owner/group data of your system into a file, extract your 7zipped system and set permissions + owner/group via ch{mod,own,grp}.
DELETE THIS ARTICLE, IT IS A SLAP INTO EVERY LINUX FAN'S FACE. Never let this man post an article again.
"DO NOT USE the 7-zip format for backup purpose on Linux/Unix because :
- 7-zip does not store the owner/group of the file.
On Linux/Unix, in order to backup directories you must use tar"
7-zip on Linux is only for compatibility with the popular formats of other OS's and as already mentioned is well-supported by all the major archive GUI's. True Linux users don't want a different, inconsistent GUI for every format under the sun; we want software organized neatly by its purpose and if that purpose is archives we want one GUI to rule over all the various formats - and that's exactly what we already have.
If you are doing real Linux backups and want 7zip's impressive compression you should ALWAYS use the *.tar.lzma format, NEVER 7zip.
Hahaha, this article should be deleted! This just shows how ignorant the writer is about Linux. Just that screen shot of him using the terminal is enough to make me laugh at his newb-ness!
Okay Jack, in Linux, a great many of our programs are actually controlled through cli behind the scenes. And we just get a nice GUI program that actually uses these cli programs inside it. We like choice in Linux so we can easily use any GUI we want.
Not all programs are this way, but I've seen a lot. Good examples are media programs like ffmpeg.
I use KDE 3.5, the good old one, and I have more GUI than I can handle to deal with 7z archives. To extract, I just right-click and select "Extract...". To compress, I just select my folders and files, right-click and select "Compress...". 7z has been available for years in the possible archive formats.
If I want to go the complicate way, I can explicitly open the 7z archive with Ark and extract from there. To create a 7z archive from Ark is as simple: I drag and drop from Konqueror, the file browser and save as "something.7z". That's all.
The only thing that is missing is that I cannot explore 7z archives as if they were folders like I can do with pretty much all the other archive formats. (It is still not available in KDE 4.x either, at least not in the version I have.)
The CLI tool is for Bash maniacs... or, more seriously, for specialized uses where it is convenient not to have any GUI. It is not even installed on my system and 7z is obviously well supported.
I cannot say much about the Ubuntu i.e. Gnome side of the things. My exposure to Gnome is mostly limited to GiMP. I shall not make any supposition except maybe that you must be using some desktop without all the bells and whistles of KDE.