There’s a wealth of information out there for hackers, or “black hats,” as they are also called. The arrest last Thursday of alleged Zotob writer Farid Essebar, 18, who went by the name Diabl0, has shed some light on the thriving underground culture, but much remains a mystery. The hacker underworld comprises numerous informational and networking resources — and not all come from the world of virus writing and malware design.
Criminals are ***not*** part of the Hacker community. The Hacker Quarterly makes that quite clear every time some idiot sends in a letter asking for information on how to hack their grades, steal something, deface anything, etc. I suspect that is also the case of the other magazines. Lets be real clear. There is no such thing as a black hat hacker. That is a fiction invented by Hollywood, who have falsely portrayed the movement that led to the PC, Apple and many other major improvements to technology, as well as news ones. If they break the law, they have no right to the name. Such people are 'criminals', not 'hackers', so stop @$$@#$ making us all look bad by claiming they are. Just because criminals can misuse what the real hacker community discovers no more makes them a hacker than someone buying a AK-47 from a gun collector makes them a US Marine.
Kaghi - Wait - are you saying that nobody in the hacker community does anything illegal? That's a bold statement. Unless you mean that they cease to be a hacker once they commit a crime... Not all bakers are criminals - but some are. Just like not all hackers are criminals - but some are. If someone like Diabl0 is only a "hacker" up to the moment when he does something illegal, how would we keep track who's who? And what about someone like Kevin Mitnik who reforms? Does he go back to being a "hacker" or does he stay a "criminal" for life? How about if a "hacker" commits a crime not related to computers (like speeding.) Are they a "hacker" or a "criminal"? All this changing status sounds complicated to me. I like it simple - "hackers" are people who hack (illegal or not), "criminals" are people who commit crimes (using a computer or not), and "black hats" are people who commit crimes using computers.
Arrests Offer Glimpse Into Hacker Culture
Posted by: Susan B. Shor August 31, 2005 11:30 AMThere’s a wealth of information out there for hackers, or “black hats,” as they are also called. The arrest last Thursday of alleged Zotob writer Farid Essebar, 18, who went by the name Diabl0, has shed some light on the thriving underground culture, but much remains a mystery. The hacker underworld comprises numerous informational and networking resources — and not all come from the world of virus writing and malware design.
Wait - are you saying that nobody in the hacker community does anything illegal? That's a bold statement. Unless you mean that they cease to be a hacker once they commit a crime...
Not all bakers are criminals - but some are. Just like not all hackers are criminals - but some are. If someone like Diabl0 is only a "hacker" up to the moment when he does something illegal, how would we keep track who's who? And what about someone like Kevin Mitnik who reforms? Does he go back to being a "hacker" or does he stay a "criminal" for life? How about if a "hacker" commits a crime not related to computers (like speeding.) Are they a "hacker" or a "criminal"? All this changing status sounds complicated to me.
I like it simple - "hackers" are people who hack (illegal or not), "criminals" are people who commit crimes (using a computer or not), and "black hats" are people who commit crimes using computers.