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Re: Red Hat's Switch Campaign
Posted by: Lou Hirsh 2002-11-04 09:25:36
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Like Apple Computer, Linux vendor Red Hat is playing the role of challenger as it tries to convert longtime users of a competing brand to its own products. But according to officials at Red Hat, the similarity between the two companies' missions ends there. Red Hat product services director Marty Wesley told the E-Commerce Times that the Linux vendor's primary battlefield is the enterprise server market, not the desktop. And its principal foe is not Microsoft's Windows, but rather the Unix operating system used by many businesses.


Re: Red Hat's Switch Campaign
Posted by: sfr_999 2002-11-08 09:49:14 In reply to: Lou Hirsh
The article itself was very well put together. What I found extremely irritating is all the "smart-tags" included that are nothing more than another blatant form of advertising. These tags make the article much more difficult to read, make me question your supposed bias, and have caused me to dump you as a supposed news source.

Re: Red Hat's Switch Campaign
Posted by: workinghard 2002-11-08 14:32:11 In reply to: sfr_999
Content is not free. Ads are prevalent everywhere you look online and offline.
In regard to the smart tags there is a very simple way to scroll down the page without activating the tags, it is called the slide bar on the right hand side of the page.

Re: Red Hat's Switch Campaign
Posted by: dewasa 2002-11-04 15:06:06 In reply to: Lou Hirsh
The article says, "Giga Information Group analyst Stacey Quandt said that Red Hat has an advantage that Apple does not possess -- [...] Red Hat's product is based on an open source foundation." Stacey is apparently finding it hard to keep up: Both Apple's server and desktop OSs are also based on an open source foundation -- Darwin. It's the same old story -- the clueless quoting the clueless...

Re: Red Hat's Switch Campaign
Posted by: RJDohnert 2002-11-06 18:18:07 In reply to: dewasa
Actually if you want to get technical about it. Apple's Open Source part is just the kernel itself all the rest such as Aqua and quartz are closed and proprietary, so Red Hat has the advantage that all of its OS ie, kernel User interface and Developer tools are up to date and freely available for download and tweaking. whereas Aqua is closed and its GNU Developer tools are very much out of date. Red Hat rules my servers and my desktop on My Macs YDL is king.

Re: Red Hat's Switch Campaign
Posted by: dewasa 2002-11-07 08:51:56 In reply to: RJDohnert
RJDohnert said "Apple's Open Source part is just the kernel itself." Not hardly. Darwin is a complete open source OS integrating Mach 3.0, operating-system services based on BSD 4.4, high-performance networking facilities, and support for multiple integrated file systems. The Darwin kernel features many enhancements from FreeBSD 4.4 and the KAME IPv6/IPsec code, and is one of the first Open Source operating system releases to be built using GCC 3.1. Now, what was that you were saying about its developer tools being out of date? BTW, opendarwin.org is currently developing the KDE GUI for Darwin. The website says: "While there is more work yet to do, the majority of KDE is usable and relatively stable, bringing hundreds of applications to Mac OS X and Darwin, including the KOffice office application suite."

Re: Red Hat's Switch Campaign
Posted by: RJDohnert 2002-11-25 15:43:10 In reply to: dewasa
I said the Kernel was open source, What I was referring to was Aqua which is closed source and still proprietary while Red Hat Linux is totally open source and I do not care about OpenDarwin.org or what they are trying to do. Fact still remains that Mach is dead it died with the NextSTEP OS, Linux is more robust and doesn't inhibit the user at all, While with Darwin, sure you can tinker with the Kernel
But try to replicate Aqua, Apple's legal team will eat you up. So as far as Open Source OSes go Linux is the best choice, I used to support Darwin and I belong to Opendarwin.org and GNU-Darwin, I tinker with Linux more now and I see more of a future with Linux than I do of Darwin.

Re: Red Hat's Switch Campaign
Posted by: madamimadam 2002-11-05 21:49:06 In reply to: dewasa
Hear Hear.... I know many a person who uses Darwin and it also contradicts the line "Another advantage of Red Hat is its ability to leverage multiple microprocessor architectures, such as the x86, IA-64, PowerPC and mainframes, she said".
Darwin can be run on many architectures and while I can see some truth in that only Darwin can be run on many architectures and not MacOSX, Darwin is FAR more comparable to RedHat in that it is a base Unix OS and requires modules to be added to it for it to work the way people would like it to.
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