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Re: Microsoft Sues Internet Software Pirates
Posted by: ECT News 2001-05-03 18:48:22
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Microsoft announced Thursday that it had taken legal action against two online Florida
businesses for alleged distribution of counterfeit software.


Additionally, Microsoft announced that it had been awarded a total of $162,000 in
settlements and judgments stemming from legal actions the company has taken against four
Minneapolis, Minnesota-area resellers for the alleged distribution of counterfeit software.


Re: Microsoft Sues Internet Software Pirates
Posted by: casesensitive 2002-01-18 09:40:31 In reply to: ECT News
"unwitting customers who buy counterfeit products are left without technical support "

Everyone knows you can't get technical support on Microsoft products.


Re: Microsoft Sues Internet Software Pirates
Posted by: Josh Schnapp 2001-05-07 15:57:19 In reply to: ECT News
If the computer software companies would lower the prices on all their software then the millions of dollars lost to software piracy would decrease. Microsoft sells their products at outrageous prices thats why their software gets pirated so much. Adobe Systems Inc. is the same way.

Re: Microsoft Sues Internet Software Pirates
Posted by: wacko 2001-12-11 21:47:00 In reply to: Josh Schnapp
Uh what i want to know is why people are paying for warezed software. I thought the point of warezing it was to get it for free... But then if you are going to buy it why not support the people making it not the morons ripping them off.. it would be like you doing all the work and other getting paid for it... OMG that is corporate America.. oh never mind... it should be free anyhow... but then as to microsoft they only sell upgrades to support the people debugging it... and one day i will have an OS that won't blue screen.. oh yea i do and it was free.. you just have to love open source .. and linux is free.. one last little thing... why does microsoft have more people with a net worth of over 10 million US dollars then any other company... you really think that is R&D or Marketing.. I am going to just have to guess NOT.

Oh have a nice day


Re: Microsoft Sues Internet Software Pirates
Posted by: Hellgod 2001-05-07 16:58:01 In reply to: Josh Schnapp
DUH... If Microsoft would sell there products for "What There Worth" they'd be a lot better off, before i'd pay for anything microsoft I WILL PIRATE it or do what i'm doing and use Redhat and StarOffice screw microsoft.

Re: Microsoft Sues Internet Software Pirates
Posted by: Time Chaser 2001-05-08 16:42:41 In reply to: Hellgod
It's not just Microsoft, as another poster noted -- Adobe and many other software companies also sell software for extremely high sticker prices that seem outrageous.

The thing is, they're stuck in a Catch-22. So many people pirate their software that they jack up the prices to take that into account. In effect, the people who actually do shell out for the software are paying for the people who are pirating it, too.

It's like paying extra for your car insurance because there are uninsured drivers out there -- you have to, and it sucks, but there's nothing you can do about it because you can't pirate car
insurance :)

It's a cruddy situation, and I don't see either side caving. Software companies aren't going to spontaneously lower their prices, and people who can't afford $600 price tags -- or just feel it's an unfair price, which it really is -- aren't going to start buying.

Personally, I love lower-priced alternatives like Paint Shop Pro ($99 vs. whatever ridiculous price Photoshop is selling for today, and it does basically the same thing).


Re: Microsoft Sues Internet Software Pirates
Posted by: Fellini Mugs 2001-05-07 16:53:09 In reply to: Josh Schnapp
Nice to see that you have the ability to determine the costs required in R&D, debugging, marketing etc for MS.

Re: Microsoft Sues Internet Software Pirates
Posted by: E 2001-12-13 16:15:54 In reply to: Fellini Mugs
Fellini, you need a small course in economics. I'll give an example from the Canadian government - about 5 years ago, a pack of smokes was around $6 up here. 90% of that was tax. The native indians loved this because they got smokes tax-free and then could resell at a lower price than could be purchased legally. So what did the government do? They lowered the taxes on smokes drastically - smokes could be purchased for $2.50 a pack. The funny thing thing about all this is that the government's revenue from cigarette taxes actually INCREASED after the tax cut. Strange stuff, eh?

Re: Microsoft Sues Internet Software Pirates
Posted by: MonkeyBoy 2001-05-08 08:47:41 In reply to: Fellini Mugs
Debugging?! Have you actually used any Microsoft products lately?

Re: Microsoft Sues Internet Software Pirates
Posted by: celticsfan 2001-05-08 18:50:03 In reply to: MonkeyBoy
Another problem is that the people who are buying the pirated MS software know perfectly well that the product they are buying is not legitimate. The copyright nightmares are not going to end until society agrees that software and music either should -- or should not -- be proprietary.
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