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Re: Apple Does the 'Unthinkable'
Posted by: Anonymous 2005-07-16 07:13:45
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Steven Jobs and Stephen Wozniak founded Apple Computer almost 30 years ago and it has been a staple of the personal computer arena over the decades -- since before the IBM-compatible PC or Wintel computer we know today. One reason that Apple has been able to gain faithful followers over the years is that its system architecture is a one-of-a-kind, namely its CPU (Motorola's 68000 and PowerPC chips by IBM and Motorola) and the operating system (Mac OS), which are uniquely associated with the Mac.


Re: Apple Does the 'Unthinkable'
Posted by: JohnSawyer 2005-07-25 22:28:16 In reply to: Anonymous
I still think it should be "Macintel", not "Mactel", which makes no sense.

Re: Apple Does the 'Unthinkable'
Posted by: rudolph 2005-07-16 13:07:19 In reply to: Anonymous
"when Apple releases the first Intel-based Macs in 2007"
Rubbish article - contributes nothing and raises no sensible issues.
The Apple Financial Results webcast firmly reiterated that Intel based Macs will be shipping before this time next year.
Strategy issues require informed and mature comment - suggest that your rag keeps well clear of this area lest you infuriate and lose your readership.
Yes, I am a mean old man!

Re: Apple Does the 'Unthinkable'
Posted by: rasmus_n 2005-07-16 11:51:44 In reply to: Anonymous
"One reason that Apple has been able to gain faithful followers over the years is that its system architecture is a one-of-a-kind, namely its CPU (Motorola's 68000 and PowerPC chips by IBM (NYSE: IBM) and Motorola) and the operating system (Mac OS), which are uniquely associated with the Mac. "
I don't believe this is true - the reason Apple has gained such faithful followers is because of the outstanding experince they offer their customers. Hardware and software combined into something creater than any other PC manufacturer is capable of doing - I truly believe this has nothing to do specifically with who makes the chip inside the computer.
Also...
"Job's justification for the move was to reduce the high hardware costs that the PowerPC chip has placed on the Mac."
Please link the page where you found this fact - I never heard or read Steve Jobs saying anything like this. What I did hear was, like you also correctly state, a too high power consumption when looking ahead, and IBM's failure to meet the roadmap they set 2 years ago. No matter how you look at it, IBM's roadmap has been a big disapointment and I for one am not going to miss their chips inside my future macs!
and...
"Apple's chip switch is a golden opportunity for Apple to prove that the quality and reliability of a computer system do not depend on the CPU alone, but greatly depend on the OS architecture."
Once again I don't understand - when did Apple or Steve Jobs claim this.
What is commenly known a Apple's philosophy, is that control of both hardware and software leads to a more reliable system, and a much greater user experience, which once again has nothing to do with the processor specifically.
"Since a great majority of microcomputer software runs on Windows, are we going to see the demise of the Mac OS eventually? Will Mac be just another commodity "PC" like those that have flooded the market with razor-thin profit margins?"
It's an interesting question you ask in your article, but I don't really think we need to wait a couple of years for the answer.
As Apple makes the switch to Intel more and more software will be easily ported to the mac. We'll probably see most games and apps available for both platforms almost simultaneously. As it'll require a lot less work for developers since they're now developing for the same processor family.
I personally believe we might even see Windows app's running transparently in OS X 10.5 or 10.6. Just like the Power PC apps will.
Buying a mac, just to run windows on it is pure blaspheme, and I certainly don't know anyone who would want to. You may be able to install Windows but rest assured that Apple wont go out of it's way to support it. So where is the hardware/software integration that I mentioned earlier - It's gone, and with it the reason for doing so. At least as far as any mac fan is concerned. I'm not saying you won't find the occasional Windows fanatic with a sence of good design who might want to do this, but it certainly won't be the majority.
I hope I've answered your question and saved you a couple of years waiting around to find out.
I apologize for any spelling mistakes, I'm Danish and don't write perfect English.

Re: Apple Does the 'Unthinkable'
Posted by: skellener 2005-07-16 11:05:55 In reply to: Anonymous
> Some analysts questioned this move,
> saying that it may cost Apple in the short term by having to
> rewrite much of the software that currently runs on the
> PowerPC chip.
What these analysts fail to realize is that Mac OS X has been running on Intel longer than PPC! NeXTSTEP was ported to Intel in 1993. Mac OS X is simply the latest version of NeXTSTEP. Considering that Jobs' mandated that all Apple software must run equally as well on both PPC and the secret Intel version since day 1, I don't really see this being a major factor for Apple.
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