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Re: The Challenge Apple Faces in Enterprise Computing
Posted by: Paul Murphy 2004-05-04 15:25:10
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Apple's role in desktop software has historically been that of the one-eyed man in the country of the blind: roundly reviled by all but discreetly trailed by the mob. Partially, as a result, its periodic efforts to break into major business markets have generally been rebuffed, not because its products don't belong in an enterprise-computing architecture but because the decision-makers are usually too far behind the technology curve to recognize its value.


Re: The Challenge Apple Faces in Enterprise Computing
Posted by: gigsvoo 2004-05-05 17:42:37 In reply to: Paul Murphy
The ideal is absolutely correct, whether it is a repeatition of Columbus or Thomas Edision or Picaso, things would not easily get believed by people unless they bring the idea to "Coca-cola" for advertisement...LOL.
Another serious thought when we all hope to see changes, probably in the next decade, is the micro-processor or some other form of chip players. We never forget that Mac at this moment still need to run on a PowerPC platform chip or any embedded Apple devices, this kind of revolution (Mac OS) also will derive the same "war" to the electronic and chipset industry world.

Re: The Challenge Apple Faces in Enterprise Computing
Posted by: ndearnshaw 2004-05-05 13:00:01 In reply to: Paul Murphy
"When Columbus returned from the New World and proclaimed that the earth was round, almost everyone else went right on believing the earth was flat. Then they died - and the next generation grew up believing the earth was round. That's how people change their minds."
-- Art & Fear, by Bayles and Orland
But can Apple afford to wait for all the incumbents to shuffle off into retirement?
And are they capturing the hearts and minds of the next generation?

Re: The Challenge Apple Faces in Enterprise Computing
Posted by: reboylin 2004-05-04 16:48:10 In reply to: Paul Murphy
An excellent analysis of the fundamental issue. Apple is trying various initiatives while not mounting any direct attack on the enterprise market.
They are finally applying for the U.S. Goverment's "Secure computing" qualification along with the open source software elements they utilize. I don't know how long this expensive process takes; but meanwhile desktop purchases by the FBI and others are happening.
The surprising performance of the Virginia Tech supercomputer has also yielded openings not previously available. When Virginia Tech finishes the installation of the G5 servers we will likely see their positon rise above number 3 in relative performance. Meanwhile the university is marketing their solution to many more, including government bodies.
Apple's cluster computing software will also make some inroads, particularly in research intensive enterprises as well as educational and government entities. As their IBM chips mature in the next year or two we could see more interest due to their performance.
Apple has done good work in integration of their server to the enterprise. More needs to be done; but when a clearly superior hardware is married to relatively secure and effective management software at a bargain price, it will be hard to ignore forever. That could happen next year.

Re: The Challenge Apple Faces in Enterprise Computing
Posted by: cvatWP 2004-05-05 12:57:55 In reply to: reboylin
We are just that type of small-business enterprise: research intensive and big on HPC. We do recognize Apple's winning combination of XRaid and XServes. In fact, we've had one one order --- for over 2.5 months! Shipping deadlines have come and gone during that time, with our Apple rep wringing his hands over IBM's chip issues.
So, while I fully concur that IT folks should take a serious look at Apple for the enterprise, Apple absolutely has to fix their timeline problem if they expect to make serious inroads into the enterprise. We can afford to wait, but I can imagine not too many companies want to delay projects for a whole quarter just to "go Mac".
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