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Re: Makulu 9 Aero Soars Above the Linux Distro Crowd
Posted by: Jack M. Germain 2015-06-27 15:43:07
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The special release of Makulu 9 Aero edition might seem like one flexible Linux offering too many. However, anyone hankering for a Windows-like operating system and the best of what is easy about using Linux could not make a better choice. The Linux OS is notorious for its great variety of distros. Linux is also infamous for having far too many choices. You might put Windows look-alike desktops at the top of such a list. Makulu 9 Aero edition provides the look and feel of Windows 7 without being a true Windows clone.

Re: Makulu 9 Aero Soars Above the Linux Distro Crowd
Posted by: MajorBellyAche 2015-06-27 16:12:51 In reply to: Jack M. Germain
This is my take on this class of distro. If you want a OS to look like Windows, use Windows. If you're seriously about using a Linux disto, learn about that disto and more specifically Linux in general. Don't pretend you're using Windows. When someone buys a Mac, they don't expect it to look and behave like Window. The same can be said vice versa. I believe Windows look alike distros give the impression to the masses, that Linux is a cheap, as in, "knock off" alternative to the genuine MS offering. I think they're a step backwards and are not helpful to the Linux cause in the slightest.

Re: Makulu 9 Aero Soars Above the Linux Distro Crowd
Posted by: end_user 2015-07-21 09:16:02 In reply to: MajorBellyAche

Linux is indeed better than Windows. However, the number of desktop/home users who use Linux is not greater than the number of Windows users. That means, Linux still has a long way to go, in order to be more popular in desktop world (Don't mention servers, supercomputers, Android mobile phones, they are not for desktop computing).

This Makulu developer did a great job, i.e. to make this Linux distro as friendly as possible to new comers, especially those who know only Windows OS. This way, someday Linux will be more popular among Windows users.

Your attitude is counter productive, only depicts the arrogance and fanatism of Linux users. That does not promote Linux better, but only makes any new comers disgusted. It's time to rethink about it, whether such an attitude is helpful to Linux community or not.

Re: Makulu 9 Aero Soars Above the Linux Distro Crowd
Posted by: MajorBellyAche 2015-07-23 01:50:31 In reply to: end_user
When you switch to a Linux distro. Do you do it because you want to continue using Windows or Mac? Or, do you do it because for whatever reason, you wish to experience something different? With that in mind, I neither think my comments are arrogant or counter productive. I think they're honest and they don't try to pull the wool over the eyes of the new user. In contrast, I think these Windows look alike distros are patronizing towards you Windows and Mac users. They make assumptions and choices for you guys. In doing so, they deny you one of Linux distro's core principles; the freedom to make your own choices. Linux distros, as I'm sure you are aware of, come in all shapes, sizes, colours and flavours. The choice is huge. There are plenty of easy, new user friendly, Linux distributions that don't attempt to be clones of something else. They say what they are and allow the user the freedom to make their own choices and easily create a distro that both suits their needs and style. That's what Linux on the desktop is all about. It's not about mimicking Windows or Mac. If a Windows or Mac refugee needs help; most do need this at some point. I did for sure. My suggestion is to get involved with a community forum and ask questions. The majority of them will bend over backward to help you out. You just have to let them know you are new to the system. As far as I'm concerned. These look alike distros do very little to promote the Linux desktop experience. In my opinion, they deny the new user the full enjoyment of owning and using a Linux distro. If you still think my attitude is arrogant and counter productive - so be it.

Re: Makulu 9 Aero Soars Above the Linux Distro Crowd
Posted by: bootneck02 2015-07-17 08:09:01 In reply to: MajorBellyAche
I am a home user, I build my own PC's and have used Microsoft operating systems starting with XP, Vista, Windows 7 and Windows 8.1. This version of Linux Makulu 9 looks ideal for someone who has only used Windows. OK you have a problem with it looks like Windows but many of us home users would love to have a OS that works out of the box and not having to purchase the add on's like anti virus,anti Malware, anti spy ware etc etc. Also comes complete with all the software so that you can use it straight out of the box. One other thing you have to realise some of us PC users are not interested in writing programs etc we unfortunately do not have the skills and at my time of life the inclination to do so. As for the price of the add on software for Windows is greatly over priced.

Re: Makulu 9 Aero Soars Above the Linux Distro Crowd
Posted by: MajorBellyAche 2015-07-23 02:06:22 In reply to: bootneck02
Why would you have to purchase anti-virus anti-malware and anti spyware software? If you're running any Linux distribution and apply common sense. These countermeasures are pretty much unnecessary. Why would you have to write programmes to run other Linux distributions. The answer is easy, you don't. Sure, there are distributions like Gentoo, Slackware and Arch where you have to compile all, or at least some of your own packages. However, if you stick with Debian/Ubuntu distros, the chances are you will never have to do this. Downloading packages from the repos is as easy as it comes. Most distros come with at least one graphical Package Manager. These make installing software on Windows look positively complicated in comparison. I think that these, "everything including the kitchen sink" distros that pose as proprietary OS look alikes, are really patronizing towards our Windows and Mac refugees. They assume you guys have an inability to adjust to an new environment and they assume you also lack the intelligence and imagination to make decisions for yourselves. They impede one of the core Linux values - "Freedom of Choice". All you end up with is a huge great bloated distro, full of someone else's assumptions. This is not what using Linux on the desktop is all about. The majority of Debian/Ubuntu based distros work straight out of the box without all the bloat these leviathans ship with. You may have to make some educated choices, or even test some software out. So what, you're under no obligation to keep it. This way you end up with what suits you the best. There are so many community forums that will bend over backwards to help newcomers get a firm grip on their chosen Linux distro. All that one has to do is ask. I truly think there are much better and more exciting choices for the newcomer to experience, than a Windows/Mac look alike distro.

Re: Makulu 9 Aero Soars Above the Linux Distro Crowd
Posted by: zenconcepts 2015-07-15 07:09:55 In reply to: MajorBellyAche
That is a very one-sided egoistic view. You are forgetting that Linux is just a kernel. It was designed to be customized to the users liking. If someone likes the Windows UI, they can choose to use Linux like Windows, Mac, or even create their own UI. Again, it's never about the UI in Linux that defines a person, it's their knowledge of the command line.

It's very childish to have someone judge another by what they like or what their desktop looks like. As if you're a women gossiping about the way another woman was dressed. It shouldn't matter!

Does it get the job done? Are you happy? That's all that matters.

Re: Makulu 9 Aero Soars Above the Linux Distro Crowd
Posted by: MajorBellyAche 2015-07-23 02:26:00 In reply to: zenconcepts
I'm not forgetting that Linux is the kernel and I have not in anyway suggested otherwise. I'm also not judging a distro by what the desktop looks like. That is up to the user to choose. I'm judging this distro and others similar to it by the philosophy behind them. I find them patronizing at best towards the new user. They deny, or most certainly impede the new user's freedom of choice. The new user ends up with a distro full of someone else's choices and assumptions. This is not what the Linux desktop distro is all about. My thoughts are neither childish or gossipy. They are truthful and make no illusions to confuse the new user.

Re: Makulu 9 Aero Soars Above the Linux Distro Crowd
Posted by: Lashway 2015-09-21 17:19:11 In reply to: MajorBellyAche
These distros aren't taking away choice, they are offering the option of less choice/responsibility.

Most people don't want to learn the ins and outs of their operating system, they want to turn on a box and have it do what it is "supposed" to do.

Windows and Mac cater to those people, which is one important reason they dominate the market. Linux distros like this one are trying to offer them basically the same experience without having to pay the premium.
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