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Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality

Posted by cypherpunks on 2003-09-04 14:19:25

In reply to RobEnderle

> They (SCO) actually have an impressive war chest
> at this point and are profitable, both of which
> suggest something is working.
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SCO eeked out a 3 million dollar profit, not from sales of any of their products, but from the money they got from Sun and Microsoft. Their sales from their traditional Unix business declined from 16 million to 13 million in Q3. They have one single patent.
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You consider that a "warchest"?
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IBM makes in profit several billion per quarter, and has over 30,000 patents - of which I'm sure every Canopy company violates at least one. In David and Goliath fights, David usually loses.
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> If I were them would I be going down this path?
> Not on your life. You point out only some of the
> risk and right now if they lose, you are
> probably right, they are done. Even if I’m right
> and this is 60/40 betting the company on those
> kinds of odds would seem excessively risky.
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What most of us are trying to figure out is why do you think you're right? You didn't show any supporting evidence. You ignored that SCO has already lost a similiar case in Germany. You neglected to mention that all the evidence they have shown publicly was completely debunked. You forget to mention that if indeed SCO is telling the truth and there are MILLIONS of lines of infringment that's 1/3rd of Linux, and just NOW SCO notices it? To trust SCO in this is naive to an extreme.
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> And if it were Intel rather than IBM on the
> other side I’d bet differently because Intel
> uses litigation like an offensive weapon, IBM
> has been too risk adverse for too long and I
> blame their legal department for much of this
> current problem.
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What if SCO was trying to get Microsoft end users to pay $699 per CPU for an undisclosed infringement? What then? You seem to think Linux is something different - it's not. SCO isn't following traditional IP litigation routes. They have to mitigate or they lose all rights to the IP. It's rule #1 in IP litigation.
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The Linux developers want to see this go to court. I'd hate to see SCO improperly profit from their extortion.


*	Topic	Author	Date
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	Rob Enderle	2003-09-02 14:44:35
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	joeblah	2003-11-19 07:42:06
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	jkondis	2003-11-10 22:57:56
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	jgoemat	2003-09-12 08:58:15
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	Caine	2003-09-17 11:12:39
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	MurrayB	2003-09-11 11:03:01
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	cypherpunks	2003-09-12 00:12:17
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	JohnOz	2003-09-11 06:27:01
	This is amusing	cypherpunks	2003-09-10 07:59:28
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	vasarik	2003-09-10 05:21:45
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	cypherpunks	2003-09-09 03:15:12
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	captwatto	2003-09-08 00:40:33
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	imorse	2003-09-07 13:24:40
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	tom1000000	2003-09-05 04:51:28
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	larsB	2003-09-04 11:52:26
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	nene	2003-09-03 23:56:02
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	kjelland	2003-09-03 22:38:38
	Patents, evidence and conlusion?	LinuxCrunchie	2003-09-03 20:53:19
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	tungtung	2003-09-03 20:35:41
	What theft?	flatlander03	2003-09-03 18:31:10
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	dsettanni	2003-09-03 18:00:06
	There WAS no DDOS of attack	cypherpunks	2003-09-04 15:37:44
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	exposeu	2003-09-03 17:59:39
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	nobby69	2003-09-03 17:15:04
	story founders on the word "seems"	hipparchus	2003-09-03 17:11:35
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	dclayton2	2003-09-03 17:01:48
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	sinp	2003-09-03 16:23:42
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	sinp	2003-09-04 10:06:50
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	jstorch	2003-09-03 11:00:23
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	JIMMYDORSEY	2003-09-03 09:44:53
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	RobEnderle	2003-09-03 12:37:33
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	JohnOz	2003-09-11 07:14:32
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	cypherpunks	2003-09-04 14:04:43
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	stend	2003-09-04 06:36:45
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	nabet	2003-09-03 16:16:20
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	matE1	2003-09-03 08:58:54
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	joeklein	2003-09-03 08:47:23
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	RobEnderle	2003-09-03 12:19:07
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	vidar_waits	2003-09-04 08:52:17
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	JohnSeehagen	2003-09-03 22:29:51
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	lundbergaj	2003-09-03 08:37:55
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	RobEnderle	2003-09-03 12:11:47
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	stend	2003-09-04 14:29:29
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	cypherpunks	2003-09-04 14:19:25
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	vidar_waits	2003-09-03 06:25:15
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	RobEnderle	2003-09-03 12:04:50
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	cypherpunks	2003-09-04 14:23:34
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	stend	2003-09-04 06:51:01
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	vidar_waits	2003-09-04 06:09:35
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	mec_2	2003-09-04 00:41:19
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	whoever	2003-09-03 14:35:07
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	linuxra	2003-09-03 05:00:09
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	observer387	2003-09-03 04:28:06
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	redbluff67	2003-09-03 00:07:05
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	fmalita	2003-09-04 07:15:48
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	Kelledin	2003-09-02 20:52:43
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	RobEnderle	2003-09-03 13:00:17
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	JohnOz	2003-09-11 07:36:20
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	Kelledin	2003-09-03 20:46:02
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	flatlander03	2003-09-03 18:49:15
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	exposeu	2003-09-03 18:15:05
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	jonabbey	2003-09-03 16:00:35
	I read the contracts too. Where did it say that?!?!?	allankim	2003-09-02 20:12:11
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	nathanh	2003-09-02 20:03:28
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	glennthigpen	2003-09-02 19:49:22
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	RobEnderle	2003-09-03 13:13:48
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	cypherpunks	2003-09-04 14:30:57
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	glennthigpen	2003-09-04 20:45:04
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	cypherpunks	2003-09-05 12:54:38
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	stend	2003-09-04 07:07:21
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	exposeu	2003-09-05 03:57:46
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	OzRoy	2003-09-03 23:11:10
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	whoever	2003-09-03 14:48:37
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	cypherpunks	2003-09-04 14:36:47
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	cypherpunks	2003-09-02 19:12:11
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	SteadyClimber	2003-09-02 19:01:14
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	RobEnderle	2003-09-03 12:48:49
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	stend	2003-09-04 14:56:19
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	cypherpunks	2003-09-04 15:20:43
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	tsudhonimh	2003-09-02 18:17:50
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	jfkfj4	2003-09-02 18:00:59
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	heimdal	2003-09-02 17:46:55
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	treadlightlee	2003-09-02 16:44:04
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	RobEnderle	2003-09-03 12:52:11
	I've read the contracts too	heimdal	2003-09-02 16:43:55
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	rishikesh1	2003-09-02 16:17:04
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	RobEnderle	2003-09-03 11:57:59
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	stend	2003-09-04 15:21:09
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	cypherpunks	2003-09-04 13:57:21
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	exposeu	2003-09-03 18:23:50
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	joeklein	2003-09-03 12:56:10
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	harkonlukas	2003-09-02 16:06:31
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	RobEnderle	2003-09-03 11:50:21
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	JohnOz	2003-09-11 06:57:49
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	stend	2003-09-04 08:04:20
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	cypherpunks	2003-09-04 03:24:03
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	voss749	2003-09-03 14:58:42