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Posted by hipparchus on 2003-09-03 17:11:35

In reply to Rob Enderle

There are many of us (linuxen) who have never said it is ok to steal. However, if someone says your car is theirs, you wouldn't turn it over without them showing some proof now would you?
This is what SCO has NOT done. The IBM countersuit was launched 28 days after IBM requested details of infringements. SCO failed to reply to IBM, instead courting the media. This does not give IBM the chance to rectify any problems. (like the car guy charging you $70 a day for car rental as he claims you've got his car, but he won't show you the evidence that would enable you to agree/disagree with him).
It turned out none of the code SCO showed in their SCOworld actually belonged too them. Apparently one bit had been
stolen by SCO from BSD and the licence ripped from the top.
Others were derivatives of BSD code and book examples. (as derivative works, they don't own copyright). SCO also refuses to stop selling Linux even though the copyright owners (kernel code contributors) claim SCO are in breach of the licence and therefore must stop using their code. Apparently much Linux code
has also been stolen by SCO for use in Linuxware, released under an in-compatible licence (er that's
theft).
In addition to all the above, some of the code SCO claims is stolen SCO employees submitted to the kernel as part of the
job SCO were employing them to do. Apparently this code was only ever used on 0.01% of systems (old alphas or something), and doesn't get used by X86s at all.
If an employee of a company in their official role sold a company car, and all the appropriate paperwork was signed and
so on, could the company later claim the person who bought the car had stolen it? I wouldn't have thought so.
You should be balanced in your view.


*	Topic	Author	Date
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	Rob Enderle	2003-09-02 14:44:35
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	joeblah	2003-11-19 07:42:06
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	jkondis	2003-11-10 22:57:56
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	jgoemat	2003-09-12 08:58:15
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	Caine	2003-09-17 11:12:39
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	MurrayB	2003-09-11 11:03:01
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	cypherpunks	2003-09-12 00:12:17
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	JohnOz	2003-09-11 06:27:01
	This is amusing	cypherpunks	2003-09-10 07:59:28
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	vasarik	2003-09-10 05:21:45
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	cypherpunks	2003-09-09 03:15:12
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	captwatto	2003-09-08 00:40:33
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	imorse	2003-09-07 13:24:40
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	tom1000000	2003-09-05 04:51:28
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	larsB	2003-09-04 11:52:26
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	nene	2003-09-03 23:56:02
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	kjelland	2003-09-03 22:38:38
	Patents, evidence and conlusion?	LinuxCrunchie	2003-09-03 20:53:19
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	tungtung	2003-09-03 20:35:41
	What theft?	flatlander03	2003-09-03 18:31:10
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	dsettanni	2003-09-03 18:00:06
	There WAS no DDOS of attack	cypherpunks	2003-09-04 15:37:44
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	exposeu	2003-09-03 17:59:39
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	nobby69	2003-09-03 17:15:04
	story founders on the word "seems"	hipparchus	2003-09-03 17:11:35
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	dclayton2	2003-09-03 17:01:48
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	sinp	2003-09-03 16:23:42
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	sinp	2003-09-04 10:06:50
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	jstorch	2003-09-03 11:00:23
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	JIMMYDORSEY	2003-09-03 09:44:53
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	RobEnderle	2003-09-03 12:37:33
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	JohnOz	2003-09-11 07:14:32
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	cypherpunks	2003-09-04 14:04:43
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	stend	2003-09-04 06:36:45
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	nabet	2003-09-03 16:16:20
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	matE1	2003-09-03 08:58:54
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	joeklein	2003-09-03 08:47:23
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	RobEnderle	2003-09-03 12:19:07
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	vidar_waits	2003-09-04 08:52:17
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	JohnSeehagen	2003-09-03 22:29:51
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	lundbergaj	2003-09-03 08:37:55
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	RobEnderle	2003-09-03 12:11:47
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	stend	2003-09-04 14:29:29
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	cypherpunks	2003-09-04 14:19:25
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	vidar_waits	2003-09-03 06:25:15
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	RobEnderle	2003-09-03 12:04:50
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	cypherpunks	2003-09-04 14:23:34
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	stend	2003-09-04 06:51:01
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	vidar_waits	2003-09-04 06:09:35
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	mec_2	2003-09-04 00:41:19
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	whoever	2003-09-03 14:35:07
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	linuxra	2003-09-03 05:00:09
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	observer387	2003-09-03 04:28:06
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	redbluff67	2003-09-03 00:07:05
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	fmalita	2003-09-04 07:15:48
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	Kelledin	2003-09-02 20:52:43
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	RobEnderle	2003-09-03 13:00:17
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	JohnOz	2003-09-11 07:36:20
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	Kelledin	2003-09-03 20:46:02
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	flatlander03	2003-09-03 18:49:15
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	exposeu	2003-09-03 18:15:05
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	jonabbey	2003-09-03 16:00:35
	I read the contracts too. Where did it say that?!?!?	allankim	2003-09-02 20:12:11
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	nathanh	2003-09-02 20:03:28
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	glennthigpen	2003-09-02 19:49:22
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	RobEnderle	2003-09-03 13:13:48
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	cypherpunks	2003-09-04 14:30:57
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	glennthigpen	2003-09-04 20:45:04
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	cypherpunks	2003-09-05 12:54:38
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	stend	2003-09-04 07:07:21
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	exposeu	2003-09-05 03:57:46
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	OzRoy	2003-09-03 23:11:10
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	whoever	2003-09-03 14:48:37
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	cypherpunks	2003-09-04 14:36:47
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	cypherpunks	2003-09-02 19:12:11
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	SteadyClimber	2003-09-02 19:01:14
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	RobEnderle	2003-09-03 12:48:49
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	stend	2003-09-04 14:56:19
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	cypherpunks	2003-09-04 15:20:43
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	tsudhonimh	2003-09-02 18:17:50
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	jfkfj4	2003-09-02 18:00:59
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	heimdal	2003-09-02 17:46:55
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	treadlightlee	2003-09-02 16:44:04
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	RobEnderle	2003-09-03 12:52:11
	I've read the contracts too	heimdal	2003-09-02 16:43:55
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	rishikesh1	2003-09-02 16:17:04
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	RobEnderle	2003-09-03 11:57:59
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	stend	2003-09-04 15:21:09
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	cypherpunks	2003-09-04 13:57:21
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	exposeu	2003-09-03 18:23:50
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	joeklein	2003-09-03 12:56:10
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	harkonlukas	2003-09-02 16:06:31
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	RobEnderle	2003-09-03 11:50:21
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	JohnOz	2003-09-11 06:57:49
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	stend	2003-09-04 08:04:20
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	cypherpunks	2003-09-04 03:24:03
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	voss749	2003-09-03 14:58:42