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Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality

Posted by voss749 on 2003-09-03 14:58:42

In reply to RobEnderle

Rob, Im surprised the issue of SCOs own behavior pre-lawsuit hasnt been raised...even putting aside the GPL. For a company to be selling a product it specializes in (whether it be operating systems or shaving cream) to claim they didnt know what was in the product they sold is legally a non-starter.
Caldera sold its own linux product with the supposed violating source code for almost two years after it purchased the rights to system v unix.
If you accept the GPL argument... They sold that product under a license they freely accepted for almost two years while they owned system v. For a company to have that level of expertise(according to their own claims), and not know is gross negligence or it is deliberate. Considering Calderas own attempt to "unify unix and linux", any claim they didnt know what was going on...seems to fail the "giggle test".
If so much code was "stolen" a simple text comparison of the two source codes, would suffice. You wouldnt need expert computer teams. The expert computer teams baloney is designed to "dazzle with bs" these non technically adept analysts.
If Caldera had given away someone elses linux for free then I might agree with you. However they themselves were contributors to the source code and selling the product as well.
In the end SCO as seller of both the violating product and the competing product so they must meet a higher standard of behavior than usual to make a claim of innocence.
They had a reasonable duty to their customers and their partners(such as unitedlinux) to ensure the products they sold didnt violate IP (including their own), they failed in that duty.


*	Topic	Author	Date
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	Rob Enderle	2003-09-02 14:44:35
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	joeblah	2003-11-19 07:42:06
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	jkondis	2003-11-10 22:57:56
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	jgoemat	2003-09-12 08:58:15
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	Caine	2003-09-17 11:12:39
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	MurrayB	2003-09-11 11:03:01
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	cypherpunks	2003-09-12 00:12:17
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	JohnOz	2003-09-11 06:27:01
	This is amusing	cypherpunks	2003-09-10 07:59:28
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	vasarik	2003-09-10 05:21:45
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	cypherpunks	2003-09-09 03:15:12
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	captwatto	2003-09-08 00:40:33
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	imorse	2003-09-07 13:24:40
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	tom1000000	2003-09-05 04:51:28
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	larsB	2003-09-04 11:52:26
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	nene	2003-09-03 23:56:02
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	kjelland	2003-09-03 22:38:38
	Patents, evidence and conlusion?	LinuxCrunchie	2003-09-03 20:53:19
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	tungtung	2003-09-03 20:35:41
	What theft?	flatlander03	2003-09-03 18:31:10
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	dsettanni	2003-09-03 18:00:06
	There WAS no DDOS of attack	cypherpunks	2003-09-04 15:37:44
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	exposeu	2003-09-03 17:59:39
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	nobby69	2003-09-03 17:15:04
	story founders on the word "seems"	hipparchus	2003-09-03 17:11:35
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	dclayton2	2003-09-03 17:01:48
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	sinp	2003-09-03 16:23:42
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	sinp	2003-09-04 10:06:50
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	jstorch	2003-09-03 11:00:23
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	JIMMYDORSEY	2003-09-03 09:44:53
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	RobEnderle	2003-09-03 12:37:33
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	JohnOz	2003-09-11 07:14:32
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	cypherpunks	2003-09-04 14:04:43
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	stend	2003-09-04 06:36:45
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	nabet	2003-09-03 16:16:20
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	matE1	2003-09-03 08:58:54
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	joeklein	2003-09-03 08:47:23
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	RobEnderle	2003-09-03 12:19:07
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	vidar_waits	2003-09-04 08:52:17
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	JohnSeehagen	2003-09-03 22:29:51
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	lundbergaj	2003-09-03 08:37:55
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	RobEnderle	2003-09-03 12:11:47
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	stend	2003-09-04 14:29:29
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	cypherpunks	2003-09-04 14:19:25
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	vidar_waits	2003-09-03 06:25:15
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	RobEnderle	2003-09-03 12:04:50
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	cypherpunks	2003-09-04 14:23:34
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	stend	2003-09-04 06:51:01
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	vidar_waits	2003-09-04 06:09:35
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	mec_2	2003-09-04 00:41:19
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	whoever	2003-09-03 14:35:07
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	linuxra	2003-09-03 05:00:09
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	observer387	2003-09-03 04:28:06
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	redbluff67	2003-09-03 00:07:05
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	fmalita	2003-09-04 07:15:48
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	Kelledin	2003-09-02 20:52:43
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	RobEnderle	2003-09-03 13:00:17
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	JohnOz	2003-09-11 07:36:20
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	Kelledin	2003-09-03 20:46:02
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	flatlander03	2003-09-03 18:49:15
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	exposeu	2003-09-03 18:15:05
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	jonabbey	2003-09-03 16:00:35
	I read the contracts too. Where did it say that?!?!?	allankim	2003-09-02 20:12:11
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	nathanh	2003-09-02 20:03:28
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	glennthigpen	2003-09-02 19:49:22
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	RobEnderle	2003-09-03 13:13:48
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	cypherpunks	2003-09-04 14:30:57
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	glennthigpen	2003-09-04 20:45:04
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	cypherpunks	2003-09-05 12:54:38
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	stend	2003-09-04 07:07:21
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	exposeu	2003-09-05 03:57:46
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	OzRoy	2003-09-03 23:11:10
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	whoever	2003-09-03 14:48:37
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	cypherpunks	2003-09-04 14:36:47
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	cypherpunks	2003-09-02 19:12:11
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	SteadyClimber	2003-09-02 19:01:14
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	RobEnderle	2003-09-03 12:48:49
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	stend	2003-09-04 14:56:19
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	cypherpunks	2003-09-04 15:20:43
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	tsudhonimh	2003-09-02 18:17:50
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	jfkfj4	2003-09-02 18:00:59
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	heimdal	2003-09-02 17:46:55
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	treadlightlee	2003-09-02 16:44:04
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	RobEnderle	2003-09-03 12:52:11
	I've read the contracts too	heimdal	2003-09-02 16:43:55
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	rishikesh1	2003-09-02 16:17:04
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	RobEnderle	2003-09-03 11:57:59
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	stend	2003-09-04 15:21:09
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	cypherpunks	2003-09-04 13:57:21
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	exposeu	2003-09-03 18:23:50
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	joeklein	2003-09-03 12:56:10
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	harkonlukas	2003-09-02 16:06:31
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	RobEnderle	2003-09-03 11:50:21
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	JohnOz	2003-09-11 06:57:49
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	stend	2003-09-04 08:04:20
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	cypherpunks	2003-09-04 03:24:03
	Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality	voss749	2003-09-03 14:58:42