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Re: Lenovo, Linux, and the Coming of the Chromebooks
Posted by: Katherine Noyes 2013-01-21 11:03:10
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However great the strides made by user-friendly distros such as Ubuntu and Mint in recent years, it seems fair to say that Linux has not yet enjoyed any sweeping successes on the desktop the way it has on the mobile side with Android. That, however, may be changing. Thanks once again to none other than Google, Linux is now appearing with increasing frequency in the PC lineups of hardware makers including not just Acer and Samsung -- whose Chromebook is no less than Amazon's top-selling laptop -- but now Lenovo as well.


Re: Additional Information to First Post...
Posted by: kibert 2013-01-22 17:43:23 In reply to: Katherine Noyes
To clarify my original comment, I am speaking of Acer's $199 C7 Chromebook, which--by all accounts--is a re-branded AO756-2641.
I also forgot to state that it has microphone and speaker jacks.
Let's hope that this is an ongoing,and growing, effort by Acer, and not just a way of working off their small-notebook inventory.

Hope this additional info makes life easier...for you, not Microsoft.

Re: Lenovo, Linux, and the Coming of the Chromebooks
Posted by: kibert 2013-01-22 09:29:25 In reply to: Katherine Noyes
An Acer $350 notebook for $199? A no brainer, when you look at the specs:

dual-core Celeron CPU;
2GB RAM;
320GB HDD;
HDMI, VGA, 3 USB, SDHC MMC reader, WiFi, Ethernet!;
1366x768 screen;
Camera.

And instructions on the internet explain how to turn this into a conventional Linux machine.

This should be the next big seller.

Re: Lenovo, Linux, and the Coming of the Chromebooks
Posted by: AG4EM 2013-01-22 02:37:06 In reply to: Katherine Noyes
It took some time, but people are finally starting to realize that a reasonably-priced device that's easy to use and starts fast has a place in the market. This is especially so now that Google has added more offline capablities. Lenovo joining in should give Chromebooks a major boost.

But what if you need Office and other Windows applications? You can use a third party solution like Ericom AccessNow, an HTML5 RDP client that enables Chromebook users to connect to any RDP host, including Terminal Server and VDI virtual desktops, and run Windows applications or desktops in a browser tab.

Even if you purchase a Chromebook for casual home use, you can also use it to connect to your work applications if necessary.

Click here for more information:
http://www.ericom.com/RDPChromebook.asp?URL_ID=708

Please note that I work for Ericom

They are too locked down..
Posted by: hairyfeet 2013-02-03 01:53:05 In reply to: AG4EM
I never thought I would say this but Chromebooks are even WORSE than MSFT for lock in!

For those that don't know even though you are talking bog standard X86 laptop, Celeron dual core, 300GB hard drive, 4GB of RAM IIRC you can NOT just put any distro you like on a Chromebook, unlike a Windows netbook (which at 11.6 inch screen is pretty much what this is) where you can just pop a USB stick into the system and be booting Debian or Puppy or anything you want. You have to 1.-Completely wipe the drive, no going back or dual booting for you, 2.- put it into "dev mode" and use a bunch of CLI to get around partway the locked boot, 3.- you can ONLY use a specific version of Ubuntu written by just one guy IIRC so whether you can even boot Linux at all is depending on this guy and if he quits tough luck, 4.-After all of that then and ONLY then can you install that one version of Ubuntu with a cracked bootloader.

I'm sorry but even at $199 that is just not a good deal. Not only is the possibility of having a usable Linux to run on it, thus making sure you can have a supported OS even after Acer has dropped support, not only is that seriously iffy, but without an Internet connection (and the 6 strikes rules look to shut down free WiFi) this thing is pretty much a doorstop.

Considering you can go to a site like Cowboom or Tigerdirect and get a refurbbed netbook with better specs or for an even lower price but unlike this no need to hack the bootloader or worry about support support in the future as you can run any bog standard X86 distro I just don't see these as a good value. Heck some of the netbooks even have a high speed browser based Linux built into the boot ROM (The Asus EEE units with Expressgate) so you can have the fast speed and more secured OS while still having the ability to install ANY X86 OS so you can have the upside to a Chromebook without the down makes it an even easier choice.

So until the Chromebooks are truly as open as a Windows netbook so I can install ANY OS that I choose on the hardware I'm gonna have to call it a pass for me and my customers.
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