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There's no denying the incendiary nature of the topic of desktop Linux, which tends to gets rehashed in heated detail every so often both on these pages and beyond. What some may not remember, however, is that there's another recurring Linux subject that can be equally controversial. It hasn't appeared in some time, but apparently some slow fires have been burning all along, because they just flared up anew. The topic in question, you ask? It's not new -- it's GNU. Get it? Well, countless other Linux fans do too.
"And again: "It's GNU/Linux, of course!" blogger Robert Pogson concurred. "Linux without GNU is useless unless you substitute something for that layer, like Android."
BusyBox/uClib/Linux is a perfectly functional system.
There are also a lot of other people that reserved credit like the x.org foundation. Singling out GNU seems like giving them too much credit. The people who do care already know the importance of GNU, those that don't won't learn just by seeing or hearing the term GNU/Linux.
GNU is a critical component of the Linux and Open Source ecosystem and the contributors to it deserve recognition.
On the other hand, RMS is such a walking talking reproductive organ sometimes, it really hurts to give him the credit he deserves.
"Linus could have used the already available BSD toolset and it wouldn't have changed a thing -- in fact, it probably would have helped Linux, as it would have had more business adoption and thus would have had more money and support."
Yah ... because BSD is so much more widely used than Linux. That's just a humdinger of an argument there, hairyfeet, based on inescapable logic. O_o
Yeah because you never heard of this little company called APPLE, only the largest corp on the entire planet, but that doesn't ring any bells right?
If RMS would have been erased from history NOTHING would have changed as far as Linux is concerned. Linus got his original idea from Minix NOT Hurd, BSD would have given him the toolset and compiler so NO difference there, you can't even give RMS credit for GCC and Emacs because the current versions are FORKS that came about because devs were tired of his BS and when he saw everyone was leaving his version for the forks he "blessed" them to keep rom being made completely irrelevant!
I repeat taking RMS out of history would do absolutely NOTHING to Linux, you can even strip out every bit of GNU-crud and the system runs just fine. Giving the squatter credit is the height of insanity and is like worried about a wrinkle in your clothes while you are getting your head bashed in by a bat. Apple is slaughtering in mobile, with tens of thousands camping like its a rock concert on release days, MSFT completely owns the desktop, and THIS, this is what you are worried about?
>strip out every bit of GNU-crud and the system runs just fine
Not going to get very far without glibc. Probably be pretty difficult to rewrite all the GPL'd code from scratch too.
Also: troll harder.
Language correctness is a battle never won.
Still, if you are a thoughtful advocate for software freedom, you’ll acknowledge the importance of the thought (some say philosophy) behind saying GNU/Linux, at least once in a while
Thank you, RMS.
Excerpt from longer post: http://mosssig.wordpress.com/2012/05/10/defining-moments/