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Re: Microsoft Contributes to Samba, World Keeps Spinning
Posted by: Katherine Noyes 2011-11-10 13:58:26
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"If you follow the Samba Technical Mailing List, you may have noted a patch submission that came in on October 10th, 2011," wrote Samba team member Chris Hertel in a blog post recently. "As often happens, a couple of developers at a company found a way to improve core Samba code," Hertel went on. "They got permission to submit the patches under their own copyright and the terms of the GPL, and they sent the patches in. "It happens all the time in Samba, and we are always grateful," he added. "The only notable thing in this particular case is the company for which those developers work: Microsoft."
... they tend to use personal copyright assignments from developers to avoid weakening any of their patents.
Microsoft is still the self-serving empire, this just goes to show the power of open source. Eventually some things get so big, you just have to play nice in order to be competitive. Lock-in is not longer a huge danger, but keep a lookout on patent issues.
Microsoft is still the self-serving empire, this just goes to show the power of open source. Eventually some things get so big, you just have to play nice in order to be competitive. Lock-in is not longer a huge danger, but keep a lookout on patent issues.
as always Pogson and hairyfeet are always the funniest. they are like the ring yang.
But I've always prided myself on simply calling it as I see it from my little retail PC shop. I think that is why so many in the community dislike me, because I don't blow smoke or make believe things are rosy when they are bad. BTW did you notice old nutty Pogson STILL can't say Microsoft? Its the classic "Voldemort" FOSSie disease, where they can ONLY say "that other OS" or "M$" like there is a sekret MS Ninja wanting to get them. don't believe me, look at Ms Noyes past postings and you will see he has NEVER said Microsoft or even MSFT which is what i usually write.
Sadly turkey week will be my last shot at FOSS Oses for a couple of years though, when even someone VERY well versed in Linux says 'I'm switching to BSD and if I can't get it to work i'm giving up!" and most likely gonna buy a Mac or go Windows? You KNOW there is trouble in paradise.
All I have been asking the community for is a clean, easy to use, light resource OS that does NOT break when you update or requires you to spend days in the term when something goes wrong, is that SO much to ask for?
And before someone pops up with the usual suspects, Ubuntu, PCLOS, etc let me say i have tried ALL of the supposedly user friendly distros and NOT ONE has passed my "is it safe?" test. try it yourself, download the version from 3 years ago (Windows on average gets 7 years worth of updates so it is actually giving an advantage to Linux off the bat) and install it. Make sure ALL of the hardware is working, then upgrade to current. What's that? Your hardware broke? tada!
yet I've seen FOSSies so committed (perfect term) to "the cause" they have actually told me I need to disable ALL updates and then hand out the PC! Like simply having Linux makes a magical barrier so even security patches are no longer needed!
So this turkey week I'm trying FreeBSD after wasting over a month on every flavor of distro that was even slightly user friendly. if FreeBSD can't pass my "Is it safe?" test i'll have NO choice but search the world for someone that will sell me Win 7 Starter for the refurbs and look for some kind of bulk deal on win 7 HP, because rep is everything in retail. I burn my rep i don't eat. And as it is now not a SINGLE Linux passes my is it safe test, even with me only giving them 3 years instead of MSFT's 7 to give them a better head start. that's just sad people, just sad.
Sadly turkey week will be my last shot at FOSS Oses for a couple of years though, when even someone VERY well versed in Linux says 'I'm switching to BSD and if I can't get it to work i'm giving up!" and most likely gonna buy a Mac or go Windows? You KNOW there is trouble in paradise.
All I have been asking the community for is a clean, easy to use, light resource OS that does NOT break when you update or requires you to spend days in the term when something goes wrong, is that SO much to ask for?
And before someone pops up with the usual suspects, Ubuntu, PCLOS, etc let me say i have tried ALL of the supposedly user friendly distros and NOT ONE has passed my "is it safe?" test. try it yourself, download the version from 3 years ago (Windows on average gets 7 years worth of updates so it is actually giving an advantage to Linux off the bat) and install it. Make sure ALL of the hardware is working, then upgrade to current. What's that? Your hardware broke? tada!
yet I've seen FOSSies so committed (perfect term) to "the cause" they have actually told me I need to disable ALL updates and then hand out the PC! Like simply having Linux makes a magical barrier so even security patches are no longer needed!
So this turkey week I'm trying FreeBSD after wasting over a month on every flavor of distro that was even slightly user friendly. if FreeBSD can't pass my "Is it safe?" test i'll have NO choice but search the world for someone that will sell me Win 7 Starter for the refurbs and look for some kind of bulk deal on win 7 HP, because rep is everything in retail. I burn my rep i don't eat. And as it is now not a SINGLE Linux passes my is it safe test, even with me only giving them 3 years instead of MSFT's 7 to give them a better head start. that's just sad people, just sad.
Thank You a refreshing viewpoint and a truth for sure.
Ref: hairyfeet 2011-11-10
How is it it's taken so long to say the truth.
Where is the clean, easy to use, light resource OS that does NOT break when you update or requires you to spend days in the term when something goes wrong, is that SO much to ask for?
My last update to Kubuntu broke the networking over a year ago. The system is still not working. I need to learn two more languages to fix it: GRUB Speak and Kickstart Speak. Even a partition removal will leave an unclean system.
Tabo
Ref: hairyfeet 2011-11-10
How is it it's taken so long to say the truth.
Where is the clean, easy to use, light resource OS that does NOT break when you update or requires you to spend days in the term when something goes wrong, is that SO much to ask for?
My last update to Kubuntu broke the networking over a year ago. The system is still not working. I need to learn two more languages to fix it: GRUB Speak and Kickstart Speak. Even a partition removal will leave an unclean system.
Tabo
the lies. they say 'oh its easy enough for granny now!" without mentioning the fine print that says "If granny has a programmer or admin in the family to constantly tweak it for her or she has a CS degree".
I sell to NORMAL folks, the checkout girl, the guy working on the roadcrew, the girl that cashes your check at the bank and so far i have YET to find a SINGLE Linux that these people can use! there is NO QA, there is NO seeming to care about driver breakage, there is NO thoughts about user friendliness or usability, its all "Just go to the forums, find a fix, and then open up bash and type" 14 pages of mess which if they get a single thing wrong the whole machine is borked!
That is just unacceptable, either the community needs to fix these things and stop relying on CLI as a magic crutch or just accept they only want to be a hobbyist OS for programmers and call it a day. Because as it is I can't even find a single distro that can pass my is it safe test, which is half of the support cycle of Windows. it just won't cut it in retail and THAT is why Linux isn't gaining ground, not some conspiracy, but because it simply doesn't work for the masses.
I sell to NORMAL folks, the checkout girl, the guy working on the roadcrew, the girl that cashes your check at the bank and so far i have YET to find a SINGLE Linux that these people can use! there is NO QA, there is NO seeming to care about driver breakage, there is NO thoughts about user friendliness or usability, its all "Just go to the forums, find a fix, and then open up bash and type" 14 pages of mess which if they get a single thing wrong the whole machine is borked!
That is just unacceptable, either the community needs to fix these things and stop relying on CLI as a magic crutch or just accept they only want to be a hobbyist OS for programmers and call it a day. Because as it is I can't even find a single distro that can pass my is it safe test, which is half of the support cycle of Windows. it just won't cut it in retail and THAT is why Linux isn't gaining ground, not some conspiracy, but because it simply doesn't work for the masses.
